Preview: CFMoto 450MT

Sit back and allow me to confidently evaluate CFMoto’s 450MT as a travel bike, based solely on online imagery, claimed data and other people’s opinions and vids. Turning Ch-Chinese? I really think so.

Update: there was a global media launch for the 450MT in the Philippines last month March and a few reviews have appeared. Plus there’s more (of the same) info on the CFMoto EU site here.
There’s a review at motorcycle.com and here’s probably the best launch video review from Ozzie. As the guy says at the end: “after riding the 450MT, we have little doubt other manufacturers will jump into this capacity. Don’t be surprised to see a T4 somewhere down the line…”

The vid below is a bit gushy by comparison, but gives some good information and close-ups. My text below has been refined following these vids.

Didn’t I say ten years ago that had my 1st-gen CB500X Rally Raider had a 270° crank I might have kept it a bit longer and enjoyed riding it a bit more? Just like I did with my later XScrambleR 700, NC750X, Africa Twin as well test rides on an Enfield Interceptor, MT07, KTM 890 and the like. Along with the forthcoming 450MT, all 270s, and all the better for it.

Compact CFMoto 450 P-twin

In case you don’t know, a parallel twin motor with ‘offset’ 270-° crank timing feels and sounds like a torquey V-twin. One piston always moving when the other is changing direction may have some ‘bearing’, but whatever the reason, I have yet to encounter a dislikable 270° P-twin. Now, almost every P-twin made is a ‘cross plane’ 270, Honda’s 500s are an unfortunate exception; Kawasaki’s 300 is another.

At 270 you get all the distinctive throb of a wide-angle V-twin like a Ducati or a V-Strom, but without their complexity and space (wheelbase) issues. And all the while you dodge the blandness of a typical ‘Japanese’ 180°, or the converse bone shaking vibration of a 360 (old Brit twins).
But featuring 270° timing in a small, 450 P-twin is an inspired move. KTM have collaborated with CFMoto since 2011 and CFMoto build their smaller bikes and bigger engines. It’s speculated that the 450MT might even be a version of the much anticipated ‘490’ which KTM recently cancelled.

in 2015 I wrote a prescient article: the Chinese Bikes Are Coming. Well, they’re well and truly here, but even back then CFMoto – around since 1989 – was one of the bigger and better established players. In the UK they’ve been marketed as WK including the short-lived WK400 proto-Himalayan (see link above).

Not bad looking as Chinese bikes go

But while the MT is a new model, the 450 motor is out there already in CFMoto’s 2023 450NK and 450SS (and now a 450CL-C) road bikes (going for £5000 and £5600 respectively) and which seem to get the thumbs up. The MT gets detuned by ~10% to 44hp producing more torque at lower rpm. They’ve thought through what’s wanted in a travel bike and it’s not a five-figure red line. So, I’m potentially sold on the motor; let’s list what I feel are some of the 450MT’s other highlights.

Tubeless ;-)

Why do so many reviewers (but not more engaged commenters) have a blind spot for the no-brainer benefits of tubeless wheels? Few mention it in their critiques, but must understand the real-world benefits in quickly repairing flats in the middle of nowhere.

Low ;-) Maybe even too low?

Low seat height. It does look low and the reviewers above say so too. The claim is 800-820mm adjustment stock or 32.3″/31.5″ in old money. So around the same as my old Him whose low saddle I still recall fondly. They’re be an 870 mil bench seat option, too.

Big ;-)

17.5 litre tank (4.6 USg). Combine that with a, let’s say, 29kpl (82 UK mpg) potential and that’s over 500km range. Nice.

Unlike a lot of over-designed Chinese Adv bikes – and some KTMs for that matter – the MT looks good, doesn’t it? Kiska, who work with KTM had a hand in it, and have done a much less eye-straining job. The pipe is not some hideous cannon, like Honda’s CT500, the lines flow and… I’d better stop before I get out of my moto design depth. A mini T7 without the nose bleeds. It’s a 44-horse unicorn.

Eight inches or 200mm of fully adjustable KYB suspension travel. To me 200 mil is a ballpark figure for a bike this size. And did I hear talk of a remote adjustment device (HPA) on the back? On the bike in the Philippine video there’s a dial but I think it’s for damping. The old-school crenelated rings on the right from a Greek vid tell the true story. Oh well.

Juiced up, they estimate the 175-kilo claimed dry weight rising to nearly 195kg in the real wet world. That’s about the same as my old CB500X before I started adding protection, racks, better suspension, tubeless 19-er front wheels and so on. We’ll know for sure on the day, but the 450MT appears to have much of this kit out of the crate.

Adjustable one handed on the move ;-)

A screen that’s adjustable. In a world where people’s height varies, what good is a screen that’s not adjustable? The range may be minimal but it all helps to reduce buffeting and fatigue for various rider sizes. I see a nice, easy-to-use knurled knob on both sides. That’s the way to do it.

Dash

No OTT twin front discs. But as long as the four-piston front caliper delivers a good, modulated bite on the 320-mm rotor, that ought to be all you need on a sub 200 kilo, 44-hp bike. My similar CB500X was fine; now they come with twin fronts and a bold new colour schemes because ‘more must be better’. The vids suggest the front brake is OK.

Hand guards, tail rack, and a small adjustable screen all seem to be stock, though the OEM bashplate is plastic with an alloy option. The usual crash bar and hard cases also shown as accessories.

Other stuff

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  • Colour TFT screen looks well laid out
  • Bluetooth connectivity. Whatever
  • The pegs are wide, the radiator appears tucked in, the subframe is detachable; so are the pillion pegs
  • Shame the bars are 7/8ths but easily adapted with risers to stronger fatbars, though I notice the stock riser is already pretty tall – extended off the road bike headstock?
  • LED lighting. OK then
  • Traction control at 44hp? With the necessary switchable ABS I suppose it’s easily incorporated

CF Moto’s 450MT is a significant bike, the first to fill the ‘450’ gap by narrowing the ‘getting there / being there’ [fast on highway / manageable on dirt] paradigm, thanks to its lowish weight and seat height, combined with adequate power and great range. The good looks and 270° soundtrack you get for free. You’ll easily find an official YT video of a bloke tearing up the desert on his MT.
It looks like summer 2024 for availability in the UK and, compared to the other CFMoto 450 prices, you’d looking at £5700. While a 1290 with ten inches of travel and 160hp will appeal to some, the longed-for and practical 450s Advs are coming – and about time too.

Wheel sizes. Do they matter?
People blindly praise the 18/21 ‘dirt bike’ wheel combo on the MT) as if it magically transforms a bike. A bit like spoke wheels are a must-have for Advs in any size (don’t start me on that).
True, on a 120-kilo MX-er, a front 21 cuts through mud and sand, but can feel less secure on roads where most road-legal dual sports ride. That’s why I prefer do-it-all front 19s for gravel roading, as on my 300L. On the dirt I barely notice the Honda’s 19 front as I’m plodding along; on the road the CRF corners much more securely, road surface, road surface and tyre design limits notwithstanding. A 310GS definitely rides better on its 17/19 combo and is OK on the dirt.
But on the back a 17-inch rear opens up lots more tyre choices, especially in tubeless, and ought to lower the seat height. Eighteen-inch tyres typically have tall side walls for more off-road squidge as well as longer footprints once substantially aired down, though the 140/70-18 CST on the back of the 450MT looks fairly low profile/road oriented. And 17/18 on the road – dynamically could anyone detect a difference?

6 thoughts on “Preview: CFMoto 450MT

  1. David Edmunds

    I have owned three Chinese bikes, A Mash 400 scrambler, a Zontes T310 and presently a Zontes M310 Scooter. The mash engine is a copy of the Honda xr400 it was a good bike the engine was very good, easy to do your own maintenance, around the bike yer there was places you needed to keep on top of but for a bike that cost just under £4000 at the time what do you expect, I changed the spark plug for a different heat range and changed the battery (Most of the batteries on Chinese bikes are not the best) and consider how long the bike had sat around more so because of Covid at the time and room on ships was being prioritised for medicines. I had no problems with the bike at all.

    The Zontes T310 had STAINLEES STEEL SPOKES on the outside to accommodate tubeless tyres. LOTS of stainless steel bolts, an electric two position screen, switch gear that LIT UP at night, a stainless steel exhaust system and a tail pipe that would shame anything Honda has put on its worn to death 500 range! And a Gel seat. Oh and a colour tft screen with fuel trip tyre pressure and two riding modes and different screen layouts. It rid well handled well with a top speed of about 90mph.

    The scooter which I still own is easier for me to get on and off has everything mentioned on the T310 but mag wheels not spoked, storage under the seat that will take one full face, a factory fitted rack that takes any of the Shad range of top boxes, two glove compartments one of which locks when the bike is shut down, two USB sockets same electric screen lit switch gear etc. It’s comfortable economical 80mpg measured at the pump twice with mixed riding, it has a centre and side stand, adjustable levers, the brakes are good ABS of course. again 90mph (Just) and I can’t tell you how much I LOVE it and I don’t give a shit what others say or think.

    Zontes have their own factory so their bikes aren’t parts bin specials or buy in parts. I am very interested in the MT 450 and can’t wait to try one and likely buy one but I will not sell the scoot. Chinese bikes have massively improved in both tech engineering quality and looks. I am a big fan. I’m 62 and have been riding since 10 off road and first hit the main road in 1977. I have owned a lot of old British bikes including a 1973 Triumph Tiger 750 which I rebuilt from the ground up in 1985 and I kept that bike 14 years. I rid it twice to Ireland in the same year and around Europe, so I have had my days of vintage bikes. Anyway there you go my thoughts on Chinese bikes. Thank you.

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  2. Ian

    Nice virtual review Chris: spot on as usual!

    My only concern would be build and quality control: whilst I’ve had the same well documented issues with Japanese brands and Japanese-built bikes as others have had – and which keep repeating themselves – (e.g. rusting spokes, erratic switchgear etc.), they’ve never let me down or been spoilt by the niggling annoyances or failures that have damned a couple of European brands I’ve also owned. I still think that bike build quality is generally way behind modern cars but being stranded because of poor preparation and sub-standard components that simply fail when it rains at a few weeks old really isn’t good. The smaller brands admittedly have a higher mountain to climb in this regards but, even so…

    Then there’s the issue of provenance, for some, given its Chinese origins and roots in essentially copying/using old proprietary Japanese design. Despite this, I’d like to think this will sell well, move the QA game along and will actually prompt some reverse engineering (how ironic) from the likes of Honda, Yamaha etc. to copy the format and produce something similar.

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    1. Chris S Post author

      Good points Ian. There are certainly some Chinese brands out there to steer clear of, but I do believe others are catching up with the marques we know and trust. As I learned in that Chinese Are Coming article I wrote years ago, there are clones, fakes and licensed copies as well as partnerships with long established brands. I think the 450MT could be the latter with KTM input. Imagine if KTM put their name on the tank; there’d be only the usual hesitancy from those not fully bought into the brand. Anyway, seeing and trying will be believing.

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  3. dwking668

    Chris, I think it’s a another case of critical mass. When the CCM GP450 came out a few years ago, I thought it would be a massive success as it was obvious (to me at least) that this was an ideal bike for ‘proper’ adventure travel, including the TAT, TET, CDT, etc. They sold, I think, around 400 bikes so it hardly set the adventure biking world on fire. I think this was because there wasn’t a 450 adventure bike class at that time so the bike was compared either with enduro bikes (not as good off-road) or big ‘adventure touring’ bikes (not as good on-road). Now a few more 450 adventure bikes are popping up, critical mass is being reached and a new class will emerge and become popular. Hope so, Dave

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    1. Chris S Post author

      Yep, every since the XR400 I think that had been an ideal capacity as a single or twin. Not as vibey as a 500cc+; more poke than a 250. That engine looks tiny: KTM must have had a hand in it.
      Must say I never saw the GP450 as a contender despite some interesting tech: wrong engine and loads of issues, iirc.

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    2. Charles Newall

      issue with the CCM was a crappy over revvey engine, nice frame good suspension, but poor build quality from the factory. First new bike I had bought since the 70s, sold a year later with 5k miles.

      it cost around 10k, no way could CCM compete with bikes like this.

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