Honda CRF300L 9000km review

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CRF300 Rally quick ride

In a Line
Light enough to tackle any trail I dare, but too tall and uncomfortable as a do-it-all travel bike for most.

  • Rally Raid suspension
  • Great range with Acerbis tank
  • 19-inch front wheel conversion
  • Screen with MRA lip
  • You know it will start and run like clockwork
  • Inexpensive and easy fit NiceCNC lowering link
  • Weighs about 162kg tanked up and with all the gear
  • Needs loads of add-ons to make it a functional traveller
  • For a trail bike, stock 894mm seat height is ridiculous
  • Negligible power increase over CRF250L
  • Seat comfort on long or rough rides
  • ‘Average Mpg’ or ‘remaining fuel level’ read-outs both out by 10%+
  • Reduced stability with big tank and other add-ons
  • 17-inch rear knocks out speedo accuracy (unless you size up the tyre)
  • Acerbis fuel cap always cross threads
  • Front brake is weak
  • Front brake switch failed ;-O
  • Negligible lowering with 17/19 wheel combo

Review
October 2023 I got my CRF shipped to southern Spain to leave in Morocco for six months. I flew down to carry on scouting new tracks for my next Morocco route guide, while also leading my one-week tours with 310GSs in between times.
I’m not quite finished with the 300L yet, but last week it turned 10,000km (6200 miles). High time to share my impressions after 8 months of riding.

Taking comfort
I bought a very well equipped 2021 300L from its second owner with just 1000 miles on the clock. It still needed a bigger tank, radiator protection and tubeless wheels (plus whatever’s shown in the graphic above). The bike came with a lowered seat (read: thinned out). At 34.5″/876mm it was 0.7″/18mm lower than Honda’s claimed OE specs of 35.2″/894mm. I tried to make the thin seat more comfortable by adding a 20mm neoprene pad under a Cool Cover which increased my back end’s mileage. But judged by side stand angle, the 17-inch rear wheel with a stock width AX41 tyre didn’t lower the back noticeably.
I then bought a stock black seat (full foam) and, with my added padding, probably went up to 35.7″ or a whopping 907mm. Then one day in Morocco I knew I’d need a low seat for a tough day, so removed the padding and Cool Cover. My backside was pummeled at the end of that 300-km ride, but I never refitted the Cool Cover and kept the neoprene slab held down with a bungy.

Later, I ditched the neoprene too and wore some Moto Skivvies and have settled for these plus opiates on a bare stock seat in a bid to keep it as low- and me as comfortable as possible. It’s still too high for easy mounting/dismounting, though the anterior agony got muted on some days. As we all know, once the drugs wear off, getting off/standing up for just a few minutes can offer respite.

High Atlas near Toubkal

286cc
The 300 is only 36.4cc bigger than a 250L when you’d hope that’d be nearer to 50cc. I owned a 250L in the US a decade ago and for what it was (left) enjoyed it greatly. Along with other factors (like the existence of the CBR300R and worldwide >300cc licensing regs), I guess there’s only so much metal in a 250L barrel to bore out.
I knew it before I bought it of course – a quick ride of a 300 Rally didn’t set my hair ablaze – but the increase in power on the 300 is negligible. It’s still essentially a ‘250’ with the same-ish 27hp as a WR-R, along with all the inherent benefits and limitations: light enough to tackle or turn around on anything the seat height allows, while being a slog on long uphills or a headwind, plus uncomfortable after more than an hour or two. So not much different to my previous WR250R or KLX250 then. In many ways my less powerful Himalayan 400 suits my ‘old man’s’ riding style better, but was no faster on the road.

The best things about my 300L are the easy 400-km range from the Acerbis tank (despite the maddening cap) and the Rally Raid suspension. While both ends might benefit from a bit of tweaking for my mass, it just works; very occasionally bottoming out at the back and never at the front. After a few weeks in Morocco I thought the rear shock was sagging a bit, raking out the forks and slowing the steering. So, lacking the shock tool, I dropped the clamps around the front forks 5mm to produce the same levelling-off effect, but can’t say it rode any better.

Ten inches of suspension and clearance?! Way higher than it needs to be for most users.

Something’s Off
The way I’d set it up something felt off on my bike. For a while I thought it was the tubeless AX41 tyres. No so much the tread pattern which is pretty conventional, but perhaps the added sidewall stiffness in the tubeless carcass, intended for GSs and the like, not dinky ‘250s’ weighing 100 kilos less. Airing down to as much as 20psi didn’t help.
Then I tried dropping the forks 5mm, as mentioned; no noticeable change. So was it a high CoG, especially with a full 14 litres on board and exacerbated by the tall screen, radiator bars with side bags and so on? It certainly felt less stable tanked up, but no more than you’d expect. I tried to avoid setting off for potentially tricky unknown tracks with a full tank. I even blamed the hefty Outback Mototek rad bars, but while heavy, they’re actually set pretty low down.

17/19 wheels. Was it worth it?
My main motivation was to convert the stock wheels to tubeless, not have smaller wheels. I knew the stock front 21 rim wouldn’t have the required ‘MT’ safety lips. As MT 21s are rare anyway, I thought I may as well try a 19 as an experiment; it’s a better all-round travel size and there’s more tubeless tyre choice. Then it turned out the rear 18 wasn’t MT either, so I may as well try a 17 which also offers greater do-it-all travel tyre choice and might even lower the bike. Note: fitting a 17 raises the gearing a bit – you won’t pull away in 2nd so often. But it also throws the speedo out from ~8 to 14%. You’re going a lot slower than the speedo indicates and may want a DRD or similar black box
to correct it. But: fitting an oversized Mitas E07 at 10,400km put the speedo error back in the ~8% ballpark. DRD not needed.
I rushed the original job and had a manageable slow leak from the 17 and a meltdown on the 19 front arriving in hot Marrakech (fitted a tube). But the 21 I left at home has held its air fine for months. In Marrakech the mechanic re-sealed the rear in between my trips, cleaning then applying a continuous band of Puraflex. He then did the same to my 19 front and both hold air fine now. Summary: technique works if you take your time and allow a day or two of curing.
All done, the bike was barely lower and, as mentioned below, the 19’s benefits only became evident with the screen removed. Obviously, I can’t tell a 17 from an 18 on the back, but running a front 19, at the donkey speeds I ride at I can’t say I noticed any detrimental effects on the dirt over a 21. Crossing gravelly oueds, I did try riding feet-up, but the front soon tucked in and deflected, as you’d expect. Through thick bull dust same thing: go deep and the wheel folds. So much for improved flotation from the fatter front: you need to attack such crossings with momentum to push the front through (see AMH8, p205), while wrangling the bucking bike and spinning back end. We know how that can end, so I often paddle like a duck.
Bend swinging on the road the AX41’s ‘50% vacant’ contact patch held me back, but I did perceive – or persuaded myself – the 19 tracked better through bends than a 21 would. Occasionally banked over
it would twitch, but the asphalt surface is rarely pristine and debris-free in Morocco. So 19: no difference over a 21 on dry, loose dirt at trail riding speeds. Deep sand, mud ruts and snow may be different. On dry asphalt it corners with more perceived confidence, depending on tyres and minimal CoG interference.

Talking of the Bridgestone AX41s, the rear TL had had it by the time I rolled back into Marrakech, having covered only 7000km or 4400 miles. I ran it at around 25psi, though it would lose about 7-8psi overnight. I went out of my way to select a tyre of identical width to the stock 18-inch IRC, but next tyre am going fatter all round: a less knobblesome 130 80 17 Mitas E07, partly because that’s the nearest the shop in Morocco can get in TL. It span less readily on loose dirt and certainly rode the roads better, like a 310 with its massive 150 rear. The front AX41 got replaced 2000km later with a bigger 19″ E07. Initially it felt heavier but the bike rode more like a supermoto on the road and is OK on the piste.

Returning in December for a week, I got to the bottom of it. Undertaking day rides, I left my baggage in the hotel (<6kg), but also removed the screen (1.5kg?) with an MRA spoiler. The bike now felt a lot more chuckable and connected. I could even ‘feel’ the 19-inch tyre’s benefits and managed the odd side-slip on the dirt, as on other bikes.
Was it purely height + weight, or also a ‘vision’ thing? Who knows, but after a week I refitted the screen and all my clobber for the ride back to Marrakech over Jebel Saghro, including a tricky a ‘4WD only’ descent, and the bike felt OK. My parameters had been reset, though I’ll definitely remove the screen again for day rides and even tours. It’s not needed and only takes 5 minutes.

In the late 70s I remember my 900SS was mysteriously transformed once I removed the half fairing. On that bike it was definitely about being able to see the front wheel (or just the front) directly, a bit like a forward control (‘cab over’) vehicle like a a VW Kombi or my old 101.

Ditching what little overnight baggage I carry certainly helped (and no tailpack made swinging the leg over so much easier), but removing the screen turned the 300L to what I’d expect: a fun, nippy, lightweight trail bike.
And yet every bike I’ve had for the last 15 years has had a screen of some sort, including the 250L (a plain, light Slipstream windshield which I reused on several later bikes). With the 300L I think it was a cumulative amassing of stuff, not just the screen, but the bigger tank, heavy radiator bars with side bags, handguards, tankbag, GPS, breakfast. From the Mototek crashbars upwards, and with a full tank, that’s up to 18kg of added mass over a stock 300L all up on the front, or way over 10% of the bike’s stock weight. Too much.

With that sorted, it’s only really comfort that holds me back, not helped by the fact that my knees are going (or are having a bad year). I’ve always been a lazy ‘sit when you can; stand when you must’ rider, but now I’m less able to hop onto the pegs or even just weight the footrests like I ought to to spare the hit when crossing a run-off ditch. Standing up is actually a good stance (compared to a 310GS), with knees pressing into the cushy sides of the seat just like they should. There’s a bit of a stoop for me (6′ 1″) at the bars, but that’s without any risers that I usually have to fit.

I do stand up on smoother terrain at the end of a ride to revive the backside and stretch out, but find, even in my TCX dirt boots, that my insteps ache after 20 minutes. Fitting wider footrests is something I overlooked in the prep, I now realise. Africa Twin Rally footrests fit right on they say, and have a third bar to support the load, but I bet other pegs fit too. The cheapest AT pegs I found were £80 on ebay, with DRC, or similar but unbranded Chinese alloys, costing around £50. Then I realised that replacing the missing footrest rubbers for 20 quid a pair will probably have the same effect, but same soreness so must be much TCX boots.

300LS – a lot lower

On the dirt I wouldn’t want any more weight nor need more power, but would love an inch less height for what I do. In the US (and maybe elsewhere one day) they now offer a 300LS, with inch less suspension and an inch less in the seat. For those without a calculator to hand, that’s two inches lower seat height.
The 300LS should have been the stock 300 back in 2021, with an ‘HS’ option for the lanky hardcore. Over ten inches of travel is excessive for a trail bike like the L; the CoG is too high making it twitchy, and it discourages ownership by less tall folk. I’ve never came close to hitting the bashplate which could easily be 2 inches lower, as on the LS. Honda could even take another inch out of the springs and put some padding back on the saddle where it’s still needed.
It’s a shame the TracTive shock from Rally Raid isn’t length-adjustable like the Wilbers on my XSR700 or YSS on the Him, though of course there’s nothing to stop me fitting a lowering Kouba Link (or similar knock off), then raising the forks in the clamps some more. In fact I have talked myself into trying just that for the next lap.

There were some long spells of oued paddling (too loose or rocky to ride) at which time the low first gear was just right, ticking over at 2mph or so, with no need to feather the clutch. But as mentioned, my speedo read-out was way out until I fitted a fatter Mitas when it went back to stock 8% error.

All in all, while the 300L was a great deal and is making my task out there easy, I’m at an age where I want a lower saddle alongside the low weight to be able to chuck it about with greater confidence, and get on and off without scuffing the saddle with a boot. I’ve matured into one of those old guys I met on my 250L in Canyonlands 10 years ago who’d ditched their KTMs for TW200s (left). Plus I’d like more day-long comfort, like a 310GS, though am not sure I’ll ever get it. All this holds back the fun of being on a planted bike like the 400 Himalayan.

On one of the tours one of the riders who owned a 450L wanted to try my adapted 300L, so I hopped on his rental 310GS. What a great bike that was, and not just the cushy, full-width saddle! Something about the steering also felt just right (this was before my de-screened epiphany). He also thought my 300 was off, and put it down to the 19-inch conversion. As John M at Rally Raid will tell you, the 310 (especially with his RR mods) is a much under-rated bike, though he rides a low-wheel 300L too.

Snatchy throttle? Can’t say I’ve noticed by found this tip on Advrider.

Of course I never expected a 27-hp 300 to be the long sought after do-it-all travel bike. That machine is more likely to be a twin or single around the 450cc mark, like the forthcoming CFMoto 450T or the Himalayan 450. I bought the more dirt-focussed CRF for the specific purpose of bagging pistes in southern Morocco while leading a few tours. I could’ve saved myself the transit costs by hiring a 310GS, but the Rally Raid sprung 300L is a better ride off road, especially if you don’t know what’s ahead. And anyway, I wanted to try the popular 300L, and can’t wait to do another couple of months riding in Morocco. The long ride back to northern Spain in late March, not so much.


Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda.
Next time I will…

  • Not rush the DIY tubeless sealing, or just cough up for CWC Airtight.
  • Get the Adv Spec radiator brace instead of the heavy Outback Mototeks and find a way of hanging the side bags off the tank to cushion the rads in a fall
  • Hardwire in the GPS, then [buy] a proper USB plug, not the unreliable cigarette-bodge
  • Leave the Cycle Pump at home and rely on the handheld USB pump
  • Try some Moto Skivvies for long runs
  • Get a Rally Raid HPA for the shock
  • Try a lowering link

12 thoughts on “Honda CRF300L 9000km review

  1. He tor Lugo's avatarHe tor Lugo

    My 2021 Honda CRF300L became worthless after just 10,000 miles. The exhaust literally came off the engine, exactly as others warned in reviews—this bike falls apart early like an old bicycle. When I took it to Honda for repairs, they refused to honor the $500 warranty I paid for, blaming “exposure to the elements.” This is not the reliable Honda I expected. Buyers beware.

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  3. Kevin Ames's avatarKevin Ames

    Hi Chris, A good review of the 300L. I’ve been following your post ‘Hotel Sahara’ on Advrider and you’ve certainly covered some ground on the little 300 with some great photos. I love the Anti Atlas!!
    I’m wondering, do you have the Level 1 or Level 2 RR suspension? (40mm difference). I have a 300 Rally with Level 2 and the standard wheels which I run TT.
    Apart from the jerky throttle at low speed in 1st gear and the hot/lean running issues I find it to be the perfect green lane/travel bike.
    I have the standard seat which I find to be really comfortable even after 5 or 6 hours riding; just have a £5 ebay coolseat cover on it. It can be a bit twitchy at 60mph on the road but that’s being picky. Currently have Michelin Trackers on which don’t last long, probably 2,000 miles from the rear and much more on the front.
    I’m just over 6ft and 90kg.

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    1. Chris S's avatarChris S Post author

      Hi Kevin, thanks. Anti Atlas and J. Saghro (geologically part of AA) have it all! I think it must be L1 as the previous owner who fitted was not tall and seems stock to me. I am about your size and have a 300L mate who is similar and also finds saddle OK. I think more standing is needed. I found the Cool Cover a bit slippery which I’m not sure is helpful. Never noticed the jerky 1st, and just added that reset tip I found on Advrider. May try it when I get back there and see if it makes a difference. Schmooba link plan is a bit drastic – never had to do that on a bike – but might make the L more day-to-day amenable.

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      1. kevinamesfontes's avatarkevinamesfontes

        Hi Chris, I would certainly advise against fitting a lowering link, especially on a bike to be used primarily off-road…you’ll loose a lot of the plushness from the top of the stroke. From looking at your photos it appears you have the higher, Level 2 RR suspension. Should be easy to check the forks, 250mm as opposed to 210mm, not so easy on the shock.. If that’s the case I’m not sure how easy it is to swop out to 210mm, maybe contact John at RR. before a lowering link.
        I think the jerky throttle affects some but not all 300’s. I did try the throttle re-set to no avail, I’m living with it.
        I bought some great pegs from Bikersbitz (listed in the CRF250M accessories page) in Thailand. They need a bit of adjustment but fit straight on. Only £16, much wider and stronger plus a bit lower which gives a bit more leg room for us tall riders and so much more comfortable when standing.

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        1. Chris S's avatarChris S Post author

          Shame the lowering link messes up the response, and 1.75″ drop is a bit much, but for 40 quid I’ll give it a go as never tried these links. I am pretty sure I have RRP Level 1 as the bloke who fitted it was only 5′ 6″. Level 2 would be beyond the pale. I note RRP also sell a lowering link but 300LS would be best. BB Pegs look good; I’ll see how I get on with my rubbers.

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  4. Marvin Keeble's avatarMarvin Keeble

    Enjoyed reading that! I’m increasingly thinking that my CRF250 Rally (with a slightly lowered seat) is too tall for me nowadays, I’m 5’7″ Something with a lower center of gravity and lower seat does appeal. Dual sports are great, but they’re not the easiest bikes to manage when things get tricky, despite the lightness.

    Regarding the hardwiring of your GPS and USB plug, you can get pretty good double aux adaptors from ebay and alike. I put this one on my CRF:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133713168186

    I also used some heat shrink solder sleeves, to join the wires for the heated grips and twin USB plug on my bike and it all worked a treat!

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    1. Chris S's avatarChris S Post author

      Thanks Marvin. These bikes are way higher than they need to be for most users.
      I annoyed myself by buying a double USB thing on the end of a CRF headlight aux socket. Took a while to work out how the cowling came off. Then I realised it was just a car cigarette lighter socket with a separate car USB thing plugged in! So of course the contact is poor. Luckily the Garmin easily last a day on battery save. Maybe I can glue it in.

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  5. Simon's avatarSimon

    GREAT photos and description thanks!!!! I sold my super rusty 2018 CRF250 which had the 21 and 18 wheels and I kept my WR250 with the 17 inch wheels which I LOVE. The Honda had 22 horses as standard and the Yamaha 30 (2010!!!) so the Yam obviously pulls much more strongly. If I was heading to Morocco I would want the Yamaha with some off road mods so larger wheels and stuff of course cos it simply FEELS stronger and more willing.

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  6. Greg Wood's avatarGreg Wood

    Hi Chris. A good read of your thorough analysis of the 300. Your comment about guys trading in their KTMs for TR200s made me smile, as I’ve done similar. Though I have gone for a ‘95 XR250R and it’s the bees knees, bearing a lot of similarities to your thoughts on the CRF300L. I have worn moto skivees for sometime now and they make a big difference for me, especially when I was riding the KTM with a seat like a church pew. You seem to be dogged by issues with your tubeless set up. Have you heard of Lucioli inner tubes? They are 7mm thick… Since putting them on my KTM (horrible job) and transferring them to the Honda (doubly horrible job) I’ve never had a puncture. And they are stiff enough that even if you did get one, you’d be fine to ride on it anyway. I can also ride very low psi as they have two built in rim locks. Me and a couple of friends are flying out to Morocco in summer to ride some of your routes on 310GS’. Keep up the good work. Cheers. Greg

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    1. Chris S's avatarChris S Post author

      Thanks Greg, just ordered some Skivvies. I’ve known of them for years but it’s the Honda seat that’s revived the need. Hopefully a bit more than the lycra cycling shorts I’ve been using which have a different purpose and are too soft. My TL will come right; it was the rush which messed things up, including all summer waiting for my wheels. The mechanic in Marrakech has a tube of Puraflex 40 and will re-seal when he has a minute. Not heard of those tubes but know of similar. Heavy, no? Tube-free ought to work, has before and will again! Enjoy Morocco on the 310s.

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      1. Greg Wood's avatarGreg Wood

        I’m sure you’ll get it sorted. I’ve had the same frustration with punctures but decided to go the route of heavy tubes. Yes they are heavy, which isn’t where you want weight with it being unsprung. However, I can honestly say I noticed little difference before and after installing them on both bikes, which I’m sure is due to me not being good enough to tell! I’m not a fast rider and the peace of mind is worth it. https://lucioliusa.com/

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