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Tested: A year with Armr Moto Kiso outfit

kisomarocIN A LINE Great outfit for the price, shame about the small jacket pockets.

DESCRIPTION Adventure style jacket with breathable waterproof liner, usual armour and six pockets. Plus trousers with removable waterproof  liner. Also, armoured waterproof gloves. See also my Hirama jacket review and this.

WHERE TESTED UK and Morocco.

COST Outfit £99 from Ghost Bikes. Gloves £40 (supplied for review by Tri-Motive)

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  • Amazing value outfit, considering the quality
  • Stylish design
  • Seems to be waterproof – too waterproof
  • Good attention to detail for the price
  • Unobtrusive armour
  • crosApart from on the back, pockets way too small
  • Waist belt a bit too high for comfort
  • Annoyingly sticky velcro on the jacket!
  • Trousers are poor – not the same league as the jacket
  • jacket vents are tiny and probably ineffective
  • Gloves eventually leaked (as expected)
  • Jacket does not breath at all: great in the rain, less good on a warm day

REVIEW kisoI’ve been wearing the Armr Moto Kiso jacket for about a year now, having given up on the previous Aerostich Falstaff. I paid £100 for the jacket and trousers and the outfit is still widely available at that price. For that money: jacket, trousers and a free balaclava too, if was worth a punt even if it all turned out to be crap. How bad can a breathable outfit be for under a hundred quid?

kisobackThe quick answer: not bad at all. This is not some poorly designed rubbish you might buy from Aldi during one of their moto bargain offers. And it just shows how overpriced high-end gear is (not that that was any kind of surprise). The same outfit from Klim would cost well over ten times as much.

The jacket is well designed with a good combination of colours, useful features and a kiso4flattering cut. It fits me better than my previous Aero Dariens – or perhaps is a bit too snug. The arms are long enough and so is the hem. You get velcro and a stud on the arms to take up the slack and annoyingly sticky velcro on all the pockets and across the front storm flap which has embedded edges against wear, plus neoprene edging round the collar. The Kiso came with an extra zip-in thermal layer, but this looked like a cheap bit of quilted nylon crap. I ditched that quick to make room for my Aero Kanetsu electric vest.

d3o-kitkisopadThe jacket has unobtrusive armour made of dense, dual density closed cell foam (left) at the elbows and shoulders, plus bits of foam embedded in the back panel. I noted one amazon reviewer panned the coat on account of these but what did they expect for £100? I’ve never normally liked the bulky crash pads that came with my older Dariens, but if I was serious about protection I’d buy a five-piece body heat-forming D3O armour kit (right) for the Kiso. Aerostich use this now.

The four small frontal vents are rather tokenistic and would provide little airflow in a desert, but I feel that way about most vents on breathable jackets. The quickest way to cool down is to unzip the front and have a big zip across the back, like Aerostich jackets.

All is well until you come to the pockets: four on the front (with hand warmer slots on the lower ones), one inside and one on the back. All well made with waterproof plastic liners. The problem is they are too darn small. Perhaps I have become spoiled by the superb array of capacious pocketure found on Aero Dariens. You can barely get your hands into the Kiso’s upper pockets which I find most useful on a coat. For a jacket in the adventure travel style where pockets are useful, it is the Kiso’s biggest let down.

As for waterproofing, the Kiso follows the cheap trend of a separate breathable liner, though this is sewn in under a mesh liner so can’t be removed to aid breathability. The couple of downpours and longer spells didn’t see it leak outright like the Falstaff, but my shirt was damp on arrival. I am prepared to put that down to condensation, not rain and which was possibly exacerbated by the heat from my electric vest? Either way it means the liner is more waterproof than breathable. You can read what I think the whole idea of breathable fabrics for motorcycle touring below and if you accept you can’t really have both, in this country I suppose I’d rather have something too waterproof than too breathable.

After a year of maybe a couple of thousand miles – the jacket still looks close to new, but although it fits me well and is smart, those maddeningly small pockets make it hard to bond with. After a while I’ve just stopped wearing it, but may cut out the liner and revive it

kiso3Armr Moto Katsura pants
The trousers I’m not so keen on. The supplied size was too small, I think I got a XXL in the end for my 38″ waist but still quite a close fit. There are two zip up side pockets, legs are long enough, braces are handy but the zip-in waterproof liner made the whole arrangement just too bulky and faffy. I also found the knee pads uncomfortable over a few hours when worn with my usual leathers which also have padding. Perhaps wearing normal trousers would have been fine. Removing the pads along with the liner made an extra layer over my leather trousers, but in a downpour quickly they quickly leaked. At least they dried off quickly too. I have to admit I don’t really like wearing this sort of clobber and preferred my Darien pants with the full length side zips for easy removal (though I never tested them in the rain). Otherwise, the leathers will do me most of the time and if it pours I’ll pull on my bombproof old Rukka PVC one-piece over my legs.

armrgloveArmr WXP8 gloves
Normally I wear thin elkskin ‘workman’s gloves’ which I pick up in the US cheap. These thicker Armr WXP8s (since superseded or renamed as WPL245) are nicely curved but the large size has fingers a bit too short for me, the velcro strap seems redundant against the larger velcro flap but I guess is there to keep the glove on in a heavy crash. I expected the gloves to succumb to the rain eventually and they have, though I admit for just £40 such a complex shape must be a nightmare to seal with membrane. And when they’re wet you tend to snag out the lining as you pull them off which may, as on other gloves I’ve had, not get pushed fully back in and create discomfort. Overall, I think I may try and track down something that fits me better, but expect them to eventually leak too.

My thoughts on breathable fabric on motorcycle clothing Gore
As I write in the book, breathable fabrics claim to work by using body heat to purge water vapour molecules through the membrane which happens to be too small to allow the ingress of date droplets. That may work huffing and puffing up Helvelyn in the rain, but surely not when sat still on a bike at 65mph. Top end breathables might work well when it’s new, clean and undamaged, but as far as I know we’re talking about a cling-film-like miracle pore layer either bonded onto the inside of the jacket onto which is bonded a permeable inner liner (right), or a loose liner. Once it gets clogged with body oils or grime it will let in water for good and/or it won’t breathe like it did. You have to marvel at how WL Gore have managed to dominate the market in ‘waterproof’ leisure wear, although work wear, I’m no so sure. There must be something to it, but I do remember thinking when it came out in the late 70s that the whole ‘condensation vapour out / no water in’ malarkey sounded a little far-fetched and I think the same now. I would never buy an expensive GTX jacket that I like to think I’ll be wearing on a long trans-continental trip, not a touring holiday and that would require washing in special soaps and curing with DWR (surface water repellent) only to know the ‘magic film’ would eventually fail. Instead I’d rely on something like my old Rukka.

Reviewed: Armr Moto’s Hirama textile jacket

The Hirama is part of Armr Moto’s small range of textile jackets, going for just £120, or £20 more than the Armr Kiso jacket I bought myself a couple of weeks ago. Liking what I wrote about the Kiso (since lost in cyberspace), Armr Moto sent me the higher-spec’d Hirama to evaluate.

In a line
Well featured, smart-looking and great value riding jacket with detachable liners, but a bit short on useful pockets.

The Hirama is pitched as a winter jacket and with all its liners weighs 2.45 kilos, about half a kilo more than my Kiso. The waterproof and thermal liners (the later zipped to the former) account for 600g, so unlined the Hirama weighs about 1.85kg.

I nipped down to the shops, and off the bike the jacket felt a bit bulky for town riding, though I guess that’s winter biking for you. Worn without all the lining clobber, sitting over the keyboard the 2XL 600D Hirama felt better – comfy but with room for padding (I’d use my own electric liner when needed). You get an adjustable waist belt which feels in the right position (unlike my Kiso), but airy shoulders which are bulked up with the inner protection and exterior padding. The back hem is cut an inch or two lower than the front, with twin side-hem velcro adjusters similar to my old Darien, as well as the pull back velcro waist belt mentioned. Inside the jacket back you get an elasticated half zip panel to match up to Armr Moto’s range of pants (see below).

Other adjustments include zip bellows + velcro tabs at the wrists (above) and a three-position cinching stud on the biceps (left – not as flexible an arrangement as on the Kiso). Like the Kiso, the arms cannot be described as short. All the detail and build quality looks as good as the Kiso and includes discrete grey reflective slashes applied to the arms (right), as well as the more obvious white slashes which together all shine brightly when lit.

The biggest drawback for me are the minimal size and range of pockets: just two  barely hand-sized velcro + zip pods on the front as well as a larger, hand-and-a-half sized pocket inside the storm flap but (cleverly) outside the main one-way zip. Attached to the mesh lining inside is a mobile phone pocket with a duplicate in the thermal lining, so that’s four or five in total – not half as useful as the Kiso. But like the Kiso they do come with a waterproof-like lining, plus those silica anti-humidity sachets which suggests the pockets are vapour-proof.

The collar is a low, paddled number which comes with a zip-on neck-tube/ mask (right) which initially looked a faff. I suppose it’s nice having a low collar for easier over-the-sholder life-savers when stretched out across your ZXR12 on the M9, and now I think about it, the detachable tube is actually quite clever in that it goes up under the helmet and then zips over the low collar’s top edge and the vulnerable front top closure, overlapping like a roof tile, so greatly reducing the chances of down-neck drippage. I believe I’ve seen this feature on other jackets and while it looks a bit clumsy to zip up both sides, it’s actually a practical feature that’ll help keep you dry and warm. As with the Kiso, you also get a pocket in the back inner mesh to take a spine protector or it occurred to me, a hydrator bladder if you like your drinks warm.

Vents come as a vertical zip pair on the chest and counterparts on the back shoulders. As I say in the Kiso review, lets hope the vents’ cooling potential doesn’t come at the cost of pelting rain leakage. I’ll find out soon enough on my Kiso.

The Hirama comes to you with two zip-in liners – the waterproof ‘Reissa’ membrane with taped seams (see below), and a super-thin thermal liner which zips onto that. It does mean that when fitted there’s an extra front zip to do up, but it also gives the Hirama unlined summer/shower versatility or snug wet and cold options. To reduce wetting-out (the outer getting soaked and taking ages to dry) the Hirama is coated with a water  repelling DWR treatment. I’m of the opinion that the traditional-style membrane bonded to the jacket outer is the way to go (as with the Kiso) and that liners are an cost-saving solution, sold as a ‘have your light summer jacket [cake] and eat it’. But I could be being a Luddite here; after all separate membrane liner can be replaced or even upgraded upon if it fails, while tears and crash damage to the jacket ought not impinge on impregnability. Perhaps a low-end liner which breathes less well (is more sweaty) than say, top of the range Gore-tex Pro Shell is not such a bad idea – being removable for warm weather comfort.

The Hirama doesn’t claim to be an adventure-style jacket and to me is not as pocket-practical as my Kiso which itself is less good than my Aerostich Darien with it’s  array of huge pockets. But I don’t recall my first Darien being waterproof on its first day of rain, and every breathable jacket will leak sooner or later once the fragile membrane fails. That’s why something like a Rukka over suit is the way to go if you positively have to keep dry.

With the lower waist belt the Hirama sits notably more comfortably on me; the tiny pair of outer pockets are the price you pay on a short jacket. Neck to hem along the main front zip, my XL Kiso is 27″ while this 2XL Hirama in a shorter, bloussony style is 24.5″ (though as said, the back hem drops down).

As for looks and style, it’s all subjective of course but the Hirama is not too tacky at all. There are worse looking jackets costing much more and like it or not, appearance is a primary driver in how we buy stuff like clothes: will my bum look cool in this?

I also have a pair of Hirama pants to try out, higher spec than the Haro pants which I’ve given to a mate who rides to work every day. He’s since reported that on their first deluge they kept him dry and warm. Good to know. Like the Hirama jacket, the Hirama pants come with the same zip-out wet and warm liners. More news about them when the right size gets sent back.